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Postby 78dtv » 06 Sep 2007, 14:25

Just managed to log in for the first time today so thought I would introduce myself.

Long time Chevette fan as my old man used to rally one when I was a lot smaller than I am now.

Heavily involved in motorsport in general with a particular leaning towards road and stage rallying. Started off competing when I was 16 doing Autocrosses in a Mini before getting a Mk2 Astra. Eventually moved into rear wheel drive Mk1 and Mk2 Escorts (of which I still own several so don't be too critical of them please), however recently I have acquired my dads old Chevette, registration no. 78 DTV hence the username.

Originally signed up on here as doubleg but cant seem to log in under that so re-registered as 78dtv.

The car is a single cam 2.6 slant four, with gertrag box, fully floating 4ha etc. built to works Group5 spec.

Car has had a hard time since my dad sold it and needs a hell of a lot of work to get it back to the standard it needs to be, I have the potential to get another ex-works car from elsewhere which has been standing for a long time so hopefully can get the two back to a decent standard. Cr has a lot of tinworm now so a lot of welding and tlc to be carried out, plus the engine hasn't been fired for several years. Guy I acquired it from reckons I must have the hard of a lion to take on the job or repairing it, however I loved the car as a kid and it was my old mans so worth the effort in my opinion. Didn't speak to my dad for a couple of weeks after he sold it.

HSR2.6 I am the one who pm'ed you on British Rally about the homologation papers etc.
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Postby Shellysowner » 06 Sep 2007, 15:04

Hello there and welcome. Sounds like you've got yourself quite a project, but happily you've come to the right place for advice and encouragement. I would be very interested to see some photos if you have any to post up :)
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Postby 78dtv » 06 Sep 2007, 15:33

Definitely looks like a large scale project.

If I can get the ex-works shell I may just do an reshell as they should be identical with my dad's being an ex-Blydenstein car.

Only pictures I have at the moment are of the car in the old days when it was a lot prettier.

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And also a couple of another old Rally Chevette which my dad used to help out with. This car is still going in the North East although hasn't been out in competition for some time now.

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Postby chevette adam » 06 Sep 2007, 18:03

Welcome, am loving the pictures of the beast. I love looking at the old rally photos, it was much more exciting back then I think. There is a couple of us on here building/restoring rally machines so there should be plenty of help and encouragement 8) For some reason now I want to go for a blast in the lanes tonight :twisted:
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Postby Doive » 06 Sep 2007, 18:39

Welcome along mate, good to have another local member in the North East! I'm just down the 69 in Hexham, which part of Newcastle are you in? She does indeed look a beast back in the day, it's always worth restoring an old stager if possible, no matter what the previous owner says. If you need a hand with anything, feel free to give me a shout.
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Postby 78dtv » 06 Sep 2007, 19:37

Thanks for the replies guys.

The car was indeed veyr rapid in it's day. The original engine is out of the car but it had been replaced with 2.3. However the original engine is still there so I should be able to get both built up so I have a spare.

Doive, I live in Shiremoor just outside Whitley Bay. Often get over your way for the Hexham 12-car rallies.

As well as me locally there is a member of my motor club (Hadrian) with
a 1256 Hatch which he road rallies and has done a few of the Hexham 12-cars in. If you have seen a blue one about with HS wheels on it (the minilite lookalike type) that is his. For such a small engined standard car it is impresive how welll the thing goes.

The Peel's who are in Hexham who have an HSR, don't know if it is an original or not but it certainly looks and sounds the part. The Peel's also do some road rallying (Hexham 12-cars) in it.

Additionally one of the members of Whickham motor club is currently building a Chevette up, I have no idea of the spec however.

Torn slightly on what colour the car will become, I am undecided on whether to go for the works silver colour scheme or stick with the red and white. Red and white edges it on the basis that is how I remember the car as a kid.

Probably a bit much at the moment looking at colours though until some major work is done.
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Postby Doive » 06 Sep 2007, 20:46

Excellent, I know a few Peels around these parts, don't know any of them with an HSR though! I know Hexham has a long and varied road rallying tradition, I've had long chats with some of the older boys who used to do all the navigational stuff in Imps and Minis back in the day - they can tell some stories.

Was just up the road from you in West Monkseaton last month, buying a car from a local trader for a colleague of mine. If only I'd known there was a works Chevette in the area, I'd have called in for a nosey. I'd certainly love to see a rally 1256, if it really is completely standard I'd be interested to know how he has made it move a bit quicker?! Perhaps I've been driving a Saab turbo for too long....
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Postby 78dtv » 06 Sep 2007, 22:05

Managed to find a pic by one of our club members at a control we marshalled on one of the Hexham events of Peel's Chevette.

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Also for those into other older cars

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and also a Mini Clubman

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Used to be a hell of a lot of road events around Hexham in the old days. The pic of my Chevette with the pink coloured rally plate in the dark are from a Hexham road rally around 81 or 82 if I remember rightly. The one of the other Chevette parked up in the dark is from the same rally.

In those days the road rallies were very different with sections timed to averages of over 60mph in some cases. Basically they were flat out road races on open public roads. Unfortunately we cant get away with that nowadays.

Your more than welcome to nip in and see the car some time once I get it down to the house to start working on it. At the moment have an ex Ford Motorsport Transit with a V6 in it and a Mk2 Escort in mid rebuild so the Chevette won't be started on till at least one of those is done and out of the way.
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Postby Shoveitpusher » 07 Sep 2007, 09:21

welcome the more rally cars the merrior - some of the natives get a bit restless about cutitng up shells to make our cars :P

my co-driver does a rally opp north called the 'weardale' run by stockton mc (he's from Newcastle or nearby).

i'd stick with the red and white scheme, works replicas are all well and good, but your car has a unique pedigree, you have the pictures to prove it. is one of those Douglas IOM?
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Postby 78dtv » 07 Sep 2007, 09:43

All of the pictures on the Manx are in Douglas.

I have other ones but haven't scanned them in yet. I missed the Weardale as I was doing the Bolton Clubmans in Lancashire the same night as there even. Who is your navigator?

Doive, realised I didn't comment in response to the 1256, the car is definitely bog standard as the guy who owns it is a good friend of mine (same motor club and I went to school with his daughter) we are the two stood in background on the pics from the Hexham 12-car. The only changes he has made have been the HS wheels, some Monroe shocks, uprated headlight bulbs. Seems to run out of puff at about 75 but surprisingly quick upto that. Oh and he has an Astra gte drivers seat as they are a bit more supportive than the standard chevette ones.
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Postby V8-CHEVETTE » 07 Sep 2007, 11:32

i'd stick with the red and white scheme, works replicas are all well and good, but your car has a unique pedigree, you have the pictures to prove it. is one of those Douglas IOM?



I totally agree keep it as it was :D
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Postby Shoveitpusher » 07 Sep 2007, 11:41

i'll lay odd he's running 185/60x13 tyres - come out at about 530mm dia which is the proper competition size for 13"

co-driver is Chris Heatherington, used to co-drive for his dad in a sccoby and mitsi, used to work with him before he went to the midlands. we're doing our second event together in October
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Postby Gordo » 07 Sep 2007, 12:24

Good to see you found your way back to the dark side.
Seems you've a few choice cars there - even the Fords - and I look forward to reading more.
The red colour is very reminiscent of a car a friend ran in a local car club - keep it that way ...

Not surprised your friend is pretty quick in the stock 1256 - decent dampers, max'ed out negative camber and decent tyres and they can be very quick point to point - they may not be that fast but you don't need to slow down much, either!
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Postby 78dtv » 07 Sep 2007, 17:45

shovitpusher, the name doesn't ring a bell with me. However I do tend to do road rallies out of the area rather than the local stuff.

Gordo, sure there will be a lot more to come once the restore starts in earnest. Car has very much seen better days and will be a hell of a lot of work to get it back upto scratch.

Red seems to be the leading colour so far, but think I should probably leave worrying about that until the thing is closer to being finished.

Last 12-car I marshalled on I was navigating for Roy in his 1256, all going swimminingly until I noticed we were well of the ground sideways. Not sure on his tyre size but it does grip very well indeed. Handling seems to be excellent on it.
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Postby bones » 08 Sep 2007, 18:40

Hello 78dtv,
Just wondering what year your dad was over doing the Manx rally ?

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Postby 78dtv » 08 Sep 2007, 21:11

bones wrote:Hello 78dtv,
Just wondering what year your dad was over doing the Manx rally ?

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Think the Manx on the photo's was 81 or 82. Wasn't my dad driving that year it was a guy called Mike Willis.

My dad is the one in the dark jeans and t-shirt working on the car.
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Postby bones » 09 Sep 2007, 19:52

I have a couple of Manx rally programs from 83,84,85, 87,88 , I was thinking the car or your dad might have featured in the pitures section of the preveous year, but can't find any.

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Postby 78dtv » 10 Sep 2007, 21:48

Where abouts on the Isle of Man are you. Last time I was across was 95 or 96 I think, it was the year Richard Burns and Alister McRae were out in the Legacy's and Malcolm Wilson and Robbie Head were in the Pilot Escort Cosworth's.

Think the place we stayed in was called Crosby, it had a row of terraced white house (we stayed in one) and next to the end house was a semi-scrapyard type of thing. Had old Armored Personal Carriers and such in the yard. Might be totally out on the name as I don't have my map to hand.
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Postby bones » 14 Sep 2007, 17:53

Your are right, Crosby is right and I think it would be Kissack's yard you stayed near, lots of trucks and old machines, diggers etc. I live near the south of the Island.
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Postby 78dtv » 15 Sep 2007, 12:30

Sounds like that was definitely it then. I have some photos of his yard somewhere.
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