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Postby rodgerq » 28 Sep 2006, 08:05

still on my quest for chevette all knowingness i have been reading about the piazza turbo axle. from what ive picked up these are better than the manta axle due to the fact it has an LSD as standard. do they handle more torque aswell then? im assuming they do since its fitted to a production turbo car.

and do these fit the car without much hassle? same mounting points? what about the shock situation on the hatch - will the back end still eed turreted?

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Postby UpNorth » 28 Sep 2006, 09:35

Do a search under Piazza and there's a good few links. Someone who's done it is called something like CR500DOM (if my memory's correct).
Anyone have a 6R4 for sale? Unfortunately I've only got £1K spare but I could throw in a few eggs to sweeten the deal!
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Postby rodgerq » 28 Sep 2006, 09:42

aye i saw a few of his posts while searchin through but i couldnt find any specifics. i'll have another gander

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Postby Shuvit-pinto » 28 Sep 2006, 09:47

Not done it myself but here is what i know.

The axle is a smidgine wider than the standard Chevette axle but will pose no probs with the arches.

The shocks are angled the same as the Chevette hatch so no probs there either.

I think the panhard rod is on the ither way so that will have to be changed and you will need to either make or use some extra mountong brackets as its a 5 point mount, ie no tunnel but an extra pron instead.

Part from that its a faily staright forward so I am lead to believe.
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Postby rodgerq » 28 Sep 2006, 09:49

lol i think i'll give it a go anyway. if it can handle more stick than the manta axle its defo gony be needed.

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Postby UpNorth » 28 Sep 2006, 09:54

Remember that not all piazza axles are LSD. Also I know from experience that the standard Manta A is good for 200bhp+ road use. It's the same axle that's in HSs and I had no bother whatsoever.
Anyone have a 6R4 for sale? Unfortunately I've only got £1K spare but I could throw in a few eggs to sweeten the deal!
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Postby rodgerq » 28 Sep 2006, 09:55

the axle im lookin at is from a piazza turbo and the guy says it has lsd. its on ebay

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Postby shuvit-tim » 28 Sep 2006, 22:30

i dont think you're right when you say the manta a axle is the same as the hs axle....

has anyone thought about the axle off a capri? dont they use salisbury axles? and i can remember seeing those in the sportpart manual.....
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Postby rodgerq » 29 Sep 2006, 15:02

just thinking aswell. what wheels and brakes will fit this? is the pcd for the wheels the same as the chevette? got brand spanking 15" comp MLs and i like them lol

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Postby Herbie_Flowers » 29 Sep 2006, 16:58

shuvit-tim wrote:has anyone thought about the axle off a capri?

yes i have and so have all the Escrote boys.
shuvit-tim wrote:dont they use salisbury axles?

the 2.8i ones do yes and it normally involves body parts if you want one.
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Postby CR500Dom » 30 Sep 2006, 19:30

I have one but its not in yet :wink:

It is not a bolt in swap

There are no spring pans on the axle so they will need to be welded on if you want to use the same arrangement

They are also a 4 link axle set up in the piazza rather than the torque tube chevette setup, so you either need to do short boxes if you are retaining the rear seat, or long boxes which are better from a geometry point of view

Panhard rod is the opposite side

The person you need to speak to is Space kadett, but you cant because Ralph Banned him

He has done the conversion and fitted the complete running gear from a Piazza Turbo into a Kadett.

I am going to 4 link mine properly, with long body boxes and rod ends on tubular 4 link bars.
But I have welded in Group 4 turrets to take coilovers as well rather than the spring pans.

PCD is 4x100 so no problem there but you will need 15" rims to clear the standard disc with "Drum in hat" handbrake mechanism.

I am using Sierra cosworth rear calipers with new brackets welded to the axle case and smaller Discs to fit inside 13" wheels

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Postby rodgerq » 30 Sep 2006, 19:45

sorry to sound dumb but im just not genned up on axles etc so what is a 4 link system and a torque tube and long and short boxes :oops:

not having seen any of these bits in the flesh is making it even more difficult obviosuly.

the interior will be gettin stripped out so the rear seats will be going. all that will be in there will be the swirl pot and fuel pumps.

i have 15" wheels, comp MLs.

also does anyone know of the power/torque these things can take before breaking? im intending on putting about 250 bhp through it eventually

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Postby CR500Dom » 30 Sep 2006, 19:57

rodgerq wrote:sorry to sound dumb but im just not genned up on axles etc so what is a 4 link system and a torque tube and long and short boxes :oops:

not having seen any of these bits in the flesh is making it even more difficult obviosuly.



You need to do some research then..... :wink:

Google 4 bar linkage axle location or similar

Failing that www.turbosport.co.uk has a fair amount of info on various rear axle location methods
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Postby rodgerq » 30 Sep 2006, 19:58

ah right so its just the mounting method then. i assume it means it has 4 points of contact with the body of the car?

i'll look into it a bit more. choking to learn more about these things and get stuck it lol

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Postby shuvit-tim » 01 Oct 2006, 22:44

can someone please send rodger a copy of the sportpart CD? it will answer all his questions! unfortunately my copy is on my currently broken laptop!
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Postby rodgerq » 02 Oct 2006, 16:35

ive got a copy. read through some of it. are there specifics on this axle conversion?

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Postby shuvit-tim » 02 Oct 2006, 19:28

there is a break down on a load of options on the axle conversions, but i'm not sure the piazza axle option is on there mind but it should be able to clue you up on 4 linking, mounting points etc
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Postby rodgerq » 02 Oct 2006, 21:09

well i just won a piazza rear axle with lsd on ebay for 228 quid. seems a decent price.

what do the manta axles go for? and what about the big wing sumps?

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Postby Shellysowner » 02 Oct 2006, 21:28

rodgerq wrote:well i just won a piazza rear axle with lsd on ebay for 228 quid. seems a decent price.


Is your name jaclyn then :?: :wink:
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Postby rodgerq » 02 Oct 2006, 21:30

lol thats the g/f. i was out so she was bidding for me and mistakenly bidded on her name.

i take it you were watchin it then

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Postby Shellysowner » 02 Oct 2006, 21:33

rodgerq wrote:i take it you were watchin it then


To be honest I watch most chevette items of interest just out of idle curiosity really - to see how much they go for.

I've got no use for a Piazza back axle personally. Make sure you have a good look round the guy's workshop/house when you go to pick it up and take a camera as it sounds like you might be in for seeing some nice Piazzas :)
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Postby rodgerq » 02 Oct 2006, 21:34

aye he says hes gont some tasty bits.

picking it up at the weekend along with the engine we've decided on.

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Postby shuvit-tim » 02 Oct 2006, 22:53

well if you want a manta a axle to go with it make me an offer on one of mine, but I have deep pockets and the moths get through more than the inland revenue :P
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Postby rodgerq » 07 Oct 2006, 18:17

well i picked this up today.

and heres how i got it home, lol. realised down there that it was never gony go in the car so a brainwave to buy a roof rack came about.

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we were very nervy about its security lol but it held great, never moved an inch.

once its off i'll get some more pics and then the stripping and cleaning can start before putting it back together with new seals etc.

once i come to fit it, i'll do a wee how to since the info available seems vague at best.

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Postby shuvit-tim » 08 Oct 2006, 22:09

bloody hell, fur play, i cringe just looking at that photo and thinking paintwork...
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