What engine can I drop into an Opel Kadett C Coupe 78

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What engine can I drop into an Opel Kadett C Coupe 78

Postby Fran » 05 Mar 2006, 16:12

Hi All, Just got myself a nice project for the summer. Fancy a bigger engine and was after some good advice/experience from you guys. Any help would be brill. Cheers :wink:
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Postby CR500Dom » 05 Mar 2006, 19:46

Well I`m doing a Zetec SE with a supercharger :D

82kg 100+hp as standard 230ish with charger :D

Looks like this:

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Need to run Type 9 gearbox and new bellhousing.

easier but more expensive option is XE Vauhall but you need a manta 1800 for the sump, hoses, engine mounts etc.

Going to have a Piazza Turbo engine and 5 speed available soon.... thats an easy enough swap as well :D
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Postby Fran » 05 Mar 2006, 19:58

Hi there Dom, That looks pretty cool to me, not really sure I need such performance for the Kadett, prefer bikes to cars anyday and rather spend my dosh on em too. But saying that the price of kadetts has shot up, My last one (97) I let it go for £50 coz I couldn't be arsed welding the boot up, Fool!
Do you know what this engine is www.opelmotorsport.com/.../John_braaten/Jon.htm or try this www.opelmotorsport.com/.../IM000926.JPG
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Postby Harry Flatters » 05 Mar 2006, 21:47

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Looks like a 2.0S CIH engine, which was the one used in the Kadett GT/E; also Opel Rekord, Manta, Ascona, Vauxhall Carlton, Cavalier Mk1, and others; up to 2.4 litres. Big heavy all iron engine, can be ££ to tune.

Old style (period) engines: Opel CIH as above, Vauxhall 2.3 slant four (Magnum / Bedford CF), Lotus 907, Ford Pinto, Ford Crossflow, Opel Cosworth (£££££), Ford BDA (even more ££££££££), Rover V8 have all been fitted, first two are the standard ones

Modern engines: Vauxhall XE / Ecotech is the standard one, Zetec as above, I've heard of Alfa engines; sky's the limit really!
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Postby Fran » 05 Mar 2006, 21:55

Hello Harry Flatters :D I was asking as I fancied something a little older like the CIH, but I can see they have their own downsides. Don't fancy going down the pinto route had enough cortinas to last me really! Do none of those you mention stand out as the most simple swap? I don't mind the work but will probably buy donor cars to strip and hoped to get everything from one, manta? :D
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Postby Herbie_Flowers » 05 Mar 2006, 22:00

Motorvolum:2,0 S
aye the old CIH, a horrible engine if ever there was one. the Manta conversion would be the most straight forward as you could use everything - engine, 'box and axle.
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Postby Shellysowner » 05 Mar 2006, 22:02

Well if you're really not interested in performance I had the idea of using a 1.8 carb motor from a mk3 carlton. That should be less than 100bhp (97 if I recall correctly) and consequently you'll be able to keep the standard rear axle and just get a custom prop made up.
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Postby Fran » 05 Mar 2006, 22:06

Hi there, like the bike, just sold my FZR400r, but miss it new un's not as fast but much more comfy! I think I'll have to go for a manta swap for now, just because of space. I suppose I can put in an XE later on if I spot a cheap one. Great advice guys, Keep your eyes peeled for the progress pics :wink:
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Postby Herbie_Flowers » 05 Mar 2006, 22:22

ah a fellow biker, care to ressurect the diesel thread as i got outnumbered but not outgunned Image
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Postby nutty but nice » 05 Mar 2006, 23:05

Shellysowner wrote:Well if you're really not interested in performance I had the idea of using a 1.8 carb motor from a mk3 carlton. That should be less than 100bhp (97 if I recall correctly) and consequently you'll be able to keep the standard rear axle and just get a custom prop made up.


I've now got a full 1.8 manta hatch and on the way back from collecting it i thought it went pretty well considering it was in a big old manta if it was in a kadett :shock: wouldnt say its slow at all i was dropping to 3rd at 70 whats xe like :shock: :shock:
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Postby Fran » 05 Mar 2006, 23:17

That sounds good enough for me, don't do racing when you feel every bump in the road! I've heard you can make up the prop from half kadett half manta, is this a job for those who know how or can I do my scrapheap challenge type wizardary on it! :D
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Postby Herbie_Flowers » 05 Mar 2006, 23:19

if you can get it balanced make your own
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Postby Fran » 05 Mar 2006, 23:25

If theres a way I'll try it! Just got to wait till the summer hols really then six weeks of pure restoration, So frustrating, at least I can amass the parts ready :D
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Postby Herbie_Flowers » 05 Mar 2006, 23:35

Fran wrote:at least I can amass the parts ready :D

your sounding like Mark aka Shuvit-pinto already :lol:
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Postby Fran » 05 Mar 2006, 23:38

Ha Ha, Is this where all the Steptoe and sons live? If so I'm home at last :lol: This lovely car is just the latest in a long line, Got an Xl125 and a bandit 400 to be fixing too! My hubby wants a refund :lol: :lol:
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Postby Herbie_Flowers » 05 Mar 2006, 23:42

your going to be busy then...not surprised the old man wants a refund :)
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Postby Fran » 05 Mar 2006, 23:48

Its not coz he never see's me, He just can't bear stubbing his toes on my bike bits etc! Most women don't like stripping engines on the kitchen worktops :roll: He likes his food and I get in the way of the cooker Ha Ha, Like the diesel debate by the way.. :)
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Postby Herbie_Flowers » 05 Mar 2006, 23:54

Fran wrote:Like the diesel debate by the way.. :)

thanks...good of you to join in :wink:
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Postby Doive » 06 Mar 2006, 00:01

Fran wrote:Most women don't like stripping engines on the kitchen worktops

Sounds like my old flat. We ended up with bumpers in the shower, wheels and tyres in the bath, brake calipers on top of the toilet cistern, jars of brake fluid in the kitchen, dashboards, headlights etc etc. No engines right enough, couldn't get those up to the second floor.
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Postby Fran » 06 Mar 2006, 00:11

Well thats just my cup of tea! Don't let my gerbils out though when I'm rebuilding, not a pretty sight I'm sure :cry:
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Postby Herbie_Flowers » 06 Mar 2006, 00:22

Fran wrote:Don't let my gerbils out though when I'm rebuilding, not a pretty sight I'm sure :cry:

*cough* :shock:
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Postby Doive » 06 Mar 2006, 00:34

Wahey! Another person with gerbils. Well, I did have some until they passed away at the end of last year (see avatar)

In happier times.

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My current companion.

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Postby Fran » 06 Mar 2006, 00:44

Ha Ha, Why do you cough HF? It wouldn't be pretty..Nah I like animals really, but not a massive fan of gerbils they are the daughters problem not mine! :roll: I make enough mess of my own to clear up never mind pets, your hamsters cute though :) Oh and really like your photography, I do my own too, B&W might dig some out and post em If you like :D
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Postby Doive » 06 Mar 2006, 00:46

Please do, always interested to see some other photos. Quite a few budding amateur photographers on here.
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Postby Shoveitpusher » 06 Mar 2006, 11:00

got a fiat twin cam in the garage with a gearbox, now surplus to requirements.
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