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Postby grim_b » 31 May 2005, 11:55

Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction for replacement head lights? I would like to see if I could get dual round lights or simular?

If you have any experience, please let me know.

Details of the car are:
Chevette L Hatchback 1982/3 (outty lights not inny :))

Thanks,
G.

Also, I would like to find a replacement light switch, as I was looking behind the switch panel the other day and noticed that the head light switch mounting behind the front switch is snapped on one side.....

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Postby Doive » 31 May 2005, 12:03

I have seen a chevette before with a set of manta twin headlights, looked good as it was very well done. I think it was a Morette conversion but not sure. You could revert to recessed lights, if you enjoy not seeing where you are going. When you describe the switch, I'm a bit confused. Are you after a new headlight switch or just the mounting panel? You say you need a new switch, but then describe a broken mounting. I have both if you do need them, I'll get some pictures posted for you if you're interested.
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Postby grim_b » 31 May 2005, 13:24

Hi Doive,

When you remove the screw from the face plate that holds the switches for lights and fogs. This panel then comes out. The head light switch has a kind of retaining clip for the connector.... It is this that has broken? I am not sure what I need to replace but as I do not have any means to take any pictures at the moment this is the best description I can offer.

Let me know what you want for the parts and I will be happy to sort you out.
(I seem to remember coffee / tea being offered for parts :))

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Postby Doive » 31 May 2005, 13:42

Hmmm. On my headlight switch all the wires are terminated with spade terminals which push on to the spades on the rear of the light switch. Can't think of any connectors or such. Are the wires not staying on the switch or what?
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Postby grim_b » 31 May 2005, 13:46

No, everything works at the moment. But the time come when I press the switch and all stops.

I also have the spade connectors, but the actual terminals are on a black box that is coming away from the actual rocker.. I think it would be better if I could get a piccy for you to look at... Maybe I could borrow a digicam from somewhere..... hmmmm.

Thanks for the feed back :-)

I am mailing morette about the light mods too, thanks.

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Postby jifop » 31 May 2005, 14:05

grim_b wrote:No, everything works at the moment. But the time come when I press the switch and all stops.

I also have the spade connectors, but the actual terminals are on a black box that is coming away from the actual rocker.. I think it would be better if I could get a piccy for you to look at... Maybe I could borrow a digicam from somewhere..... hmmmm.

Thanks for the feed back :-)

I am mailing morette about the light mods too, thanks.

G.


the square black bit clips onto the back of the switch mech but is not a seperatly available part, you will need a whole new switch, my lights used to black out occasionally until one day all my lights died on the motorway! luckily a bit of tinfoil and some gaffa bodged it for the jorney home where i put a vw switch in for a temporary fix!
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Postby grim_b » 31 May 2005, 14:16

Thanks for the story, I will look out for this happening :)

On the back of Doive's Morette Headlight conversion post, I have just baught a K&N bolt on air filter from www.koni-shocks.co.uk for £40..... (Clearance)

If I hadn't searched for Morette then I would of ended up paying £50+ for a Halfords box shifting job.

THANK YOU DOIVE!!!! You the man.
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Postby Doive » 31 May 2005, 14:34

On an unrelated subject of me being the man, I've unearthed my spare light switch for a few pics. I presume yours looks like this one as I don't know of any others fitted to the Chevette. Click for big pic.

<a href="http://www.atps04.dsl.pipex.com/chevette/pics/dscf0218.jpg"><img src="http://www.atps04.dsl.pipex.com/chevette/pics/dscf0218.jpg" width=320 height=240 border=0></a>

I then took it to bits to understand what you are describing. I am guessing by black plastic connector you mean the thing on the right separated from the switch body?

<a href="http://www.atps04.dsl.pipex.com/chevette/pics/dscf0219.jpg"><img src="http://www.atps04.dsl.pipex.com/chevette/pics/dscf0219.jpg" width=320 height=240 border=0></a>

Now finally, the problem with it staying on the switch. Well in actual fact the problem really lies with the switch not staying on the rocker. I had a similar problem with my interior light switch, where one of the two plastic clips broke off which hold the switch slider in contact with the contacts inside the switch body (rocker bit on left of photo). I assume it is one of these that have broken on you, meaning the black plastic bit won't stay on?

<a href="http://www.atps04.dsl.pipex.com/chevette/pics/dscf0220.jpg"><img src="http://www.atps04.dsl.pipex.com/chevette/pics/dscf0220.jpg" width=320 height=240 border=0></a>

I fixed my interior light switch by liberal application of superglue all around the edge of the black housing - however, this resulted in superglue leaking into the housing and sticking the slider fast! Oops. Some gentle persuasion managed to free it off and it now works better than the spare one I have here. The chevette headlight switch does take a bit of abuse though, from what I can tell there is no relay in the circuit.
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Postby jifop » 31 May 2005, 14:52

it does get damn hot!
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Postby Doive » 31 May 2005, 15:02

If you look inside there are three little 'nubs' each about 2mm across, and these make contact with the slider when you switch the lights on. These little bits of metal have to take the full load current from the dipped beam lights, which is almost 10 amps. Quite a bit passed through such a small bit of metal. Series 1 XJ6s have the same kind of setup, and they are forever burning out headlight switches. Think I may splice into the loom and fit a nice relay, not that I do a lot of night time driving.
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Postby grim_b » 31 May 2005, 15:02

jifop wrote:it does get damn hot!


Um... Thats a bit random isn't it jilop?? :wink:

Doive,

Thanks for doing that... Your right those little black bits are the problem here.
So some expert use of the old super glue should have it sorted then? I was going to have a go at that in the short term but now "The Man" says that he did it with success, I am going to have a go. I will let you know how it goes.

Thanks again for all your help.

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Postby Doive » 31 May 2005, 15:42

grim_b wrote:"The Man"

I don't think I deserve such praise :oops:

Have a bash with the old superglue, but be careful that

a) you don't stick the switch contacts together,

b) you don't stick yourself or the switch to the dashboard, and

c) you don't stick bits of your body to other bits of your body (i.e. don't go for a pee straight afterwards!)

Class dismissed.
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Postby jifop » 31 May 2005, 16:42

grim_b wrote:Um... Thats a bit random isn't it jilop?? :wink:


nope, the switch gets damn hot!
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Postby Tortron » 01 Jun 2005, 01:51

You could revert to recessed lights, if you enjoy not seeing where you are going

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doive im shocked (hence the :shock: )

theres nothing wrong with recessed lights
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Postby Doive » 01 Jun 2005, 02:39

Well my dad had three chevettes so attired. He said the headlights were poor, and that was compared to a mk2 escort which wasn't exactly night into day stuff either. The flush lights were a massive step forward compared to the recessed ones, and are better looking to, at least to my eye. Perhaps this has something to do with the fact that these were the first chevettes I encountered, and also the fact I now own one.
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Postby Shellysowner » 01 Jun 2005, 03:00

Some of us on the other hand, despite owning flush-light cars, think that recessed headlights look the bees proverbials and hang the practicalities! Still, takes all sorts I s'pose. :lol:
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Postby Doive » 01 Jun 2005, 03:20

Its all to do with how you perceive cars. I saw the chevettes first as a young child, and even then they looked old next to the much newer mk3 escorts and novas going around. I saw a flush lighted car first, when my neighbour bought one, and once I saw that they started springing up all over the place. To me the recessed light cars always looked drowsy and half asleep next to the wide awake bright eyed flush light cars. As a child I always likened a car to a face, and I suppose even now part of me still does that. What can I say, I'm still four years old!
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Postby grim_b » 01 Jun 2005, 08:39

I too like the flush look, but you have to accept your cars growth too. (Cant spell heritage 8))

Talking of that light switch again!
I got in the car after work yesterday and pressed the magic button.... nothing...... !!!

Took it out and all had gone wrong. The rear of the switch (the bit that makes the connections short) had come off!! Typical.

Lucky for me it is only a five mile drive and being summer (ish) the lights were not needed. (however chaps and chappesses, it is illigal to drive any car day or night with non working lights??)

anyway, just removed the whole unit and seeing as I do not have any glue, I used my trusty old soldering iron to melt the broken clip into place... Put it back on the car and guess what???

One of the bulbs has now blown!!!! That'll teach me ay.

Luckily being a Chevette owner, I keep a spare :lol:

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Postby jifop » 01 Jun 2005, 08:59

i like both the recessed and flush lights, they both have their appeal
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Postby Tortron » 01 Jun 2005, 10:32

if you really had to you could wire in your rear window demister switch, i seem to think they had the same wiring stuff in them
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Postby Doive » 01 Jun 2005, 12:34

Your foglight switch is identical in both size and interiour connections. Just hook this up as a temporary replacement, as it is very unlikely you will need foglights at the height of summer (unless you're a chav).
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