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Postby iety2004 » 04 Sep 2005, 13:32

Im fitting some new gauges to my kadett whilst i put my new engine in.

so i was wondering who does some quality gauges? and do they come with there own senders?

or will i have to use t-peices?

i plan to use oil temp, oil pressure and fuel pressure,

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Postby Neilyman » 04 Sep 2005, 13:37

Have a look on Demon Tweaks website.......loads of gauges there.
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Postby iety2004 » 04 Sep 2005, 14:46

i don't want to pay their broad day light robbery prices tho im afraid,

i'm on a pretty small budget, being a student, and only gonna buy the basics,
just wanted to know what everybody elses preferences were
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Postby TJM » 04 Sep 2005, 15:09

Send me an email with what gauges you are after as I can supply Smiths, Green gauges, Eclipse and a few others.

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Postby shuvit-tim » 04 Sep 2005, 15:48

use tweaks to work out what you're after and then buy it from elsewhere - ie tjm!
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Postby Neilyman » 04 Sep 2005, 16:15

shuvit-tim wrote:use tweaks to work out what you're after and then buy it from elsewhere - ie tjm!



and do they come with there own senders?

or will i have to use t-peices?


That`s exactly where I was coming from! :lol:
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Postby iety2004 » 04 Sep 2005, 17:57

i see, but what i want to know, is which is the best make? ie reliability, best to buy etc?

don't want to buy some gauges that not up to the job, :wink:

jut wondered what other users ran in their cars and what they would buy if they were fitting them to their car,
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Postby Shellysowner » 04 Sep 2005, 18:34

Well if you want reasonable value and performance you can't go too far wrong with smiths guages, but I don't see how a gauge can be 'not up to the job'. It either works or it doesn't and for general use it won't matter whether the gauges are accurate to 0.01psi or not as all you're really using them for is a rough figure and comparitive measure against last time you ran the car etc. I think you'd be surprised at how far off some gauges fitted to production cars are and how they have non-linear errors in them etc. but we're not running an F1 team here - it's a Chevette road-rally car in which case if the gauge works, then it's good enough... and since they're only cheap gauges, if one breaks then buy another one!
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Postby Herbie_Flowers » 04 Sep 2005, 20:55

i'd go for smiths as well as they've been around for donkeys years and have been fitted to all manor of vehicles. don't discount purchasing second hand gauges from autojumbles but i doubt you would find the fuel pressure second hand.
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Postby shuvit-tim » 04 Sep 2005, 21:01

just registered with migweb so i'll put up an ad on there looking for some smith guages?
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Postby Harry Flatters » 04 Sep 2005, 21:35

Find a Jag breaker or scrap XJ6 - it'll have a complete set of Smiths gauges in, and senders to suit.
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Postby Doive » 05 Sep 2005, 00:03

I have a Smiths rev counter from a Spitfire 1500, a Tim voltmeter and an unknown vacuum gauge. All work very well and look excellent in the car. I think fuel pressure is a little OTT - if the pressure drops, the car dies. By the time the gauge tells you, I think you will know!!
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Postby Harry Flatters » 05 Sep 2005, 07:19

Gauges I'd have in a car (from long experience!): speedo, rev counter, oil pressure, fuel (level not pressure), water temperature, volts (some prefer amps).

Gauges that got looked at on rallies: oil pressure, water temperature, volts, fuel.
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Postby iety2004 » 05 Sep 2005, 08:34

I wanna run a fuel pressure so i can adjust pressure easily and for quick problem solving, i don't plan to not finish an event due to a down fuel pump.

I'll be having 2 pumps, running one, but if it breaks the gauge will tell me and i won't be potching around under the bonnet, i can just swap the pumps.

So their seems to be a running theme on the recommendation of smith gauges. so i'll have a look for set of em.

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Postby shuvit-tim » 05 Sep 2005, 10:36

not a bad plan that iety - it's not like fuel pumps weigh very much
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Postby Neilyman » 05 Sep 2005, 11:43

2 way switch.....Pump 1...Pump 2....why the gauge?,
If it stops, flick the switch, if it still don`t run, you`ve run out of gogo juice! :lol:
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Postby iety2004 » 05 Sep 2005, 12:46

Gogo juice :lol:

well the car already has a fuel level sensor, just want to keep an eye on what the pressure is running at, catch a problem before it happens

what is the benifit of running a voltage gauge?

im also gonna get warning lights, you can buy them in kits. low oil pressure, high oil temp ect, gonna put them in a alloy centre consol, like the ones from demon tweeks. :wink:
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Postby Neilyman » 05 Sep 2005, 13:15

iety2004 wrote:
what is the benifit of running a voltage gauge?



Tells you the alternator is fit & well!


iety2004 wrote:im also gonna get warning lights, you can buy them in kits. low oil pressure, high oil temp ect, gonna put them in a alloy centre consol.


It`ll look like a Christmas tree, They`ll see you coming in the dark, cos your face will be all multicoloured with the reflections! :lol: :mrgreen:
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Postby shuvit-tim » 05 Sep 2005, 13:24

cheap warning lights mate: indicators. make sure your oil pressure light is a nice fat side indicator - that way if there's a problem there's no way you'll miss it and can cut the engine before any damage is done.

a large array of switches and lights is all very pretty but keep things simple - the more complicated you make it the more things there are to go wrong 2 minutes before you start the stage and the longer it'll take you to trace the problem!
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Postby iety2004 » 05 Sep 2005, 13:40

I thought that was simple, cos flat out down a stage in the dark i won't be able to keep an eye on the guages, so 3 warning lights i don't think is excessive.

hope they don't all come on like you said and light up the inside light crimbo :?

just a bit pareniod since my last engine went bust and no oil light came on :shock:

better safe than sorry.

it'll look pretty trick anyway, 8)

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Postby shuvit-tim » 05 Sep 2005, 14:03

hell i'm sold. i'm all for the xmas tree effect. allbeit things will have gone a bit tits up at th epoint they all start flashing! :lol:
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Postby iety2004 » 05 Sep 2005, 17:08

its best to pull over, get out and run for cover....................she's gonna blow

lets hope the insurance haven't run out,

the car is gonna be rate when it finished,
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Postby Harry Flatters » 05 Sep 2005, 18:03

G, a few suggestions.

1. Don't bother with the fuel pressure gauge; like Neily says, better to run 2 pumps separately switched. If you put too many gauges in you won't look at them all anyway - stick to the most helpful ones.

2. As Tim says get a big bright oil pressure light, but also fit a high pressure switch; standard switches trip at 5 psi - by the time the light's lit up you've lost your big ends.

3. Keep the warning lights to a minimum. Think about what you will do if one of the lights starts blinking at you. IMHO oil pressure and charge warning is enough.

Why would you want to adjust fuel pressure? Fuel systems are designed to run at a set pressure, whether carb or injection; fiddling about will probably get you starvation or flooding. If you want to set up pressures for a non - standard fuel system better to do it with a high precision gauge in the workshop.

flat out down a stage in the dark i won't be able to keep an eye on the guages


You will. If not, put them in front of the nav & give him another job!
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Postby iety2004 » 10 Sep 2005, 22:48

right then, thanx for the advise you guys,

i won't use a fuel pressure gauge, instead i will use a low pressure warning light, with the pumps on a 2 stage switch; off, on, on, only running one pump at a time. so when i'm driving and the light comes on, just switch to use the other pump, easy.

Oil pressure gauge & low pressure warning light, bright orange, like what was reconmend

Oil Temp gauge & High temp warning light.

And a Amp Gauge.

I don't this will be over the top,
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Postby Neilyman » 11 Sep 2005, 08:19

The Oil & Battery warning lights on my Grasstracker were a pair of Landrover indicators, one with a red lense, one with the orange lense........
You don`t `miss` them when thy light up with 21w bulbs!! 8) 8) 8)
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