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Postby iety2004 » 12 Dec 2004, 05:12

Hi i've looked for front wings for my Kadett and i cant seem to be able to find any locally so, being that they are bolt on i thought i would see how hard it would be to make replacement panels out of fibre glass?

Does anybody know if i could buy them already made? or if there are any good website that tell you how to make them?
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Postby Doive » 12 Dec 2004, 14:24

Kadett front wings, especially the later 76-79 type, are like the proverbial hen's molar caps. The only place I have been able to track them down is on ebay, and even these were going for very silly money. The one place I have spotted them at reasonable prices (around £50) is on german ebay, but you usually have to sweet talk a german bloke (not easy) into sending them to the UK.

Read recently of a bloke who builds rusty old alfas up using fibreglass wings from moulds he made himself. It has taken him years to get the curvature and fit of the wings correct, but if you are willing to spend a little time and effort you could come up with a decent set of replacement panels. Problem is you need a good straight wing to take a mould from in the first place. He says he buys the resin in bulk, then mixes it and pours it into the presses. Could be more effort than its worth, but then some people just love a challenge!
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Postby greatbignath » 14 Dec 2004, 00:27

Sounds a good challenge.
if you could make the moulds up, it wouldnt take to much effort to make the replacement panels!

this has set me thinking!!! :lol:
hmmm its not a ford!!
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Postby shuvit-tim » 14 Dec 2004, 04:26

on a slightly separate note, iety if you manage to do this successfully, and do it to a high enough quality, you'd probably be onto a nice little earner!

Resin is relatuvely cheap, once you hae the moulds perfected, you can print money in terms of panels!
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Postby Doive » 14 Dec 2004, 04:28

I know for a fact the Kadett wings would be very sought after - now if you could manage to make a bonnet, then please drop me a line and I'll have one off you! There is a company in Germany who sell OE steel bonnets, but they want almost 700 quid - I think not.
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Postby shuvit-tim » 14 Dec 2004, 04:31

off topic i know, but i found those docs on how to tune the nuts of a standard chevette engine (and presumeably kadette) do you still need them or did the mighty Doive sort you out?
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Postby Doive » 14 Dec 2004, 04:32

Crap!! I forgot to email them to him. Sorry, its been a hectic week.
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Postby shuvit-tim » 14 Dec 2004, 04:45

could you have moulds made? if you took them to the appropriate engineering firm and took them the bonnet and wings and stuff? the financial output would be bound to be outweighed by the potential income.
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Postby Doive » 14 Dec 2004, 04:51

I work for a metrology company here in Edinburgh, and I know some of our customers like the big car firms use arm mounted CMM's with a probe to 'see' the shape of a panel by taking thousands of measurements across its surface and plotting them all on a computer. From this they can build up a 3D picture of the whole panel and so have moulds and thigs made up with great precision. I know this is a bit off subject and probably won't help, but I'm sure there are engineering companies in Wales that would be able to do something similar for not loads of money.
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Postby shuvit-tim » 14 Dec 2004, 11:19

engineering companies in wales?! "oooh, light without fire!!"

just kidding :P
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Postby hsr2.6 » 14 Dec 2004, 18:36

one word....................somebody with a jig to make these panels,you would be as rich as mr dyson :lol: :lol:
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Postby TJM » 14 Dec 2004, 22:49

Right, come on then give me an idea of how many people would be interested in what panels, exact model of cars required and I will look at some costing of getting moulds made?

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Postby iety2004 » 15 Dec 2004, 01:12

Sorry haven't been on here for a couple of days, had a crap load of uni work to do!

Er, I would be interested in some Kadett Front Wings if you could get some!

Or its me trying to make some and a bonnet, which i don't mind, i love a challenge.

I would of thought a boat company who deal with fibreglass could easily make some replacement panels.
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Postby shuvit-tim » 15 Dec 2004, 01:30

hmmm there is a boatyard that makes fibreglass kist in Borth here near Aberystwyth. Dont think i'm gonna have the tim eto pop and see them though i'm afraid
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