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Postby areofall » 15 Dec 2005, 21:51

Just was searching the net and read the standard kadett hatchback with a auto box has a bigger tunnelthat a manual? I always though they were the same shell?
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Postby Harry Flatters » 15 Dec 2005, 22:00

I'd be surprised, and my Chevette parts list doesn't show a different floorpan or tunnel for the auto.....
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Postby Shellysowner » 15 Dec 2005, 22:01

Well the cars are essentially the same shell. As is my understanding the only difference between the shells of automatic and manual cars is that the auto will have a slightly enlarged tunnel to fit around the 'box and this is why they are often preferred by people doing engine swaps as these usually enatil having a larger 'box. It's not a major difference though and a spot of welding and fabricating is most probably going to be needed when doing an engine swap anyway so I wouldn't let it worry you as a shell-choosing issue.

edit... although since I wrote this Harry says he doesn't think there's much difference so I could be wrong. I'm only basing it on info that seems to be lodged somewhere in my head rather than cold, hard facts :P
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Postby areofall » 15 Dec 2005, 22:31

Thinking of going for the kadett on ebay and take a small chance! I looked at a chevette today an it's a real good one to so it can be a back up plan, I just like the kadett front better.
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Postby Harry Flatters » 16 Dec 2005, 08:09

OK, I've since looked thro' that parts list in more detail & found it doesn't list the auto box either, so it's not a reliable authority! I'd still be surprised, but that's no more reliable than anyone else's info!

As said above, though, the difference if it exists is likely to be minor, so you wouldn't make it a reason to ignore a good manual - particularly since a lot of gearboxes (HS Getrag, for example) will go in the standard tunnel.
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Postby Neilyman » 16 Dec 2005, 11:35

The Auto tunnel is bigger, quite a bit bigger, & a different shape too.
I stripped a knackered Auto a few years ago.
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Postby Shoveitpusher » 16 Dec 2005, 12:42

as harry said it's not necessary to have the auto tunnel for an upgrade, unlike an escort.

my shell is a manual and there is plenty of room for the box - even with the standard brackets left in, as well as the exhaust. an auto will need a certain amount of re-wiring as well as a manual pedal box
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Postby Harry Flatters » 16 Dec 2005, 18:38

Oddly enough I've had a couple of autos thro' and never noticed a difference! I was drunk at the time m'lud........

Oh All Seeing Eye, can you remember where the difference is? Bellhousing end, or tunnel itself? May be useful for anyone planning a 2279 / ZF conversion....
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Postby Neilyman » 17 Dec 2005, 01:08

Bell end! :shock: :lol: , `tis wider/fatter. I think more on pass side IIRC.
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Postby Harry Flatters » 17 Dec 2005, 15:50

Bell end!.....`tis wider/fatter


Now, see, I wasn't going to go there!
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Postby Neilyman » 17 Dec 2005, 16:16

Harry Flatters wrote:
Bell end!.....`tis wider/fatter


Now, see, I wasn't going to go there!


We`re all `adults`....`cept young Tim :P
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