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Postby Herbie_Flowers » 13 Nov 2005, 15:08

i've got a GL rear panel that is blatantly obvious it isn't going to fit - it's not wide enough and the letter holes don't line up. so my questions are -
1 - is there a difference between the light spacings on older hatchbacks and later hatchbacks?
2 - is there a difference between the light spacings on saloons and hatchbacks?
i also noticed that most of the holes, 2 per letter, stamped into my rear panel that hold the individual Vauxhall letters are in a different place to the holes stamped into the GL panel.
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Postby Neilyman » 13 Nov 2005, 17:28

Post some measurements Nick, I`ve got one here that I can compare yours with.......I thought they were all the same. This one came from a saloon, but it will fit my hatch.

Maybe the letter holes are different for the metal or plastic letters on early/late models??
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Postby Harry Flatters » 13 Nov 2005, 18:12

Saloon and hatch rear panels are listed as different in the parts books, but I don't know what the difference is.
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Postby Neilyman » 13 Nov 2005, 22:25

It must be the letter hole me thinks.....I fitted the panel I took from a saloon I scrapped (inc the turrets) :(..... just to see what it lookied like, I don`t know if the holes lined up, `cos all mine are brazed up on my back panel....It`s smooth.
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Postby Herbie_Flowers » 13 Nov 2005, 22:25

the length of the panel is 51.5" and the length between the light apertures is 28.5" approximately.
my light spacing on the car is overall length 51.5" and inbetween the lights is 30.5" approximately.
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Postby Neilyman » 13 Nov 2005, 22:26

I will measure it tomorrow!..my panel that is :lol:
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Postby Herbie_Flowers » 13 Nov 2005, 22:31

i would have thought the whole light cluster would hold the panel in place but it appears i'm 1" short from doing so on the inside edges.
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Postby Doive » 14 Nov 2005, 12:11

I thought the saloon and hatch rear panels were a different profile, with saloons having a more pronounced kick in the middle, so having slightly more distance between the rear lights - I could be wrong of course....
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Postby Neilyman » 14 Nov 2005, 13:16

Herbie_Flowers wrote:the length of the panel is 51.5" and the length between the light apertures is 28.5" approximately.
my light spacing on the car is overall length 51.5" and inbetween the lights is 30.5" approximately.


My panel is 51.5" long, with 30.5" `tween the light cutouts...give or take an 1/8"...so going by these measurements, mine should fit your hatch....it fits mine ok.

.....If the saloon has a different rear panel, I`ve no idea if it has or not, with more distance between the lights, then the space between the cutouts in the panel would need to be longer. My panel deffo came from a saloon, that`s all I`ve ever broken....it was an`A` reg Auto, Nicks panel is too short between cutouts, so if the saloon is longer, & the hatch is shorter.......the short panel should fit Nicks hatch......?????

I dunno, there`s a midget Chevette somewhere missing it`s GL panel!

*everyone go measure between the lights on your saloons & hatches....see what results we get!*

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Postby Herbie_Flowers » 14 Nov 2005, 13:31

were these panels fitted to any other Vauxhall does anyone know?
are the rear light clusters the same from '75 to '84 on the saloons and hatches?
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Postby Shellysowner » 14 Nov 2005, 14:23

I've never notcied any difference in the light clusters myself.
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Postby Doive » 14 Nov 2005, 18:08

Disclaimer - I could be wrong here!

I think there is a difference in the rear panels between saloon and hatch. I got a set of rear lights from a hatch as spares, and they have straight reflectors as compared to the ones fitted to my saloon which are angled within the cluster. I believe this is because the whole units in the saloon are angled away from the centre line of the vehicle. The rear panel presumably fits the same locating points on each car, but the profile may be subtly different.

Someone go take loads of pics of the back of their hatch, especially from the side. I'll get pics of mine then we can all compare.
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Postby jifop » 14 Nov 2005, 18:16

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these are all the hatch ones i have to hand, can do saloon when its light!

havent got the hatch anymore tho so thats it from me i'm afraid
Before you say anything..... no i cant spell or type!

The post above is my own personal opinion, it is not meant to upset or cause offence, if it does bugger off.

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Postby Neilyman » 14 Nov 2005, 19:02

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This is a link, `cos the pics huge!!

http://www.chevettes.com/images/chev/chev_01757l.jpg

Plenty pics in the gallery, I`m not convinced there`s a difference...soz!
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Postby Doive » 14 Nov 2005, 20:16

As I say I may be wrong.... it's only a theory! Comes from the fact that I have two distinctly different sets of rear lights sitting here with different angled reflectors - suggests to me they may mount differently. I look forward to being proved either right or wrong!
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Postby Shuvit-pinto » 14 Nov 2005, 21:43

Well, according to the Chevette parts catalogue ( Pt No 2.682 ) there is no diffrence in the Lens. They are all the same for car body styles M1, M2, M3, M5, M6, M7, M8, and M9. These are all basicly saloons and hatches. There is a listing for the light cluster for the saloon ( Pt No 2.664 ) but not as far as I can see one for the Hatchback.

I will sift through my many rear light clusters and see if there is a diffrence. :wink:

However the rear panels are diffrent. The Hatchback is listed as a one piece upper ( Pt No 12.966 ) and a twopiece ( Pt No 12.966 left and right )which is the bit above the number plate molding. The saloon is listed as either a one piece ( Pt No 12.966 ) which dose incorperate the lower diffrent styled number plate part or two piece ( Pt No 12.966 for left and right ), also as is, curiously, the Estate and Chevanne!!

You may have notice here that all the back panels share the same part number even the very diffrent estate and Chevanne!! Very odd. :?
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Postby Herbie_Flowers » 15 Nov 2005, 02:20

hmm..the plot thickens and not in a good way :cry:
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Postby nutty but nice » 15 Nov 2005, 12:03

maybe its because its a pattern part and you know how ill fitting they can be.
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Postby Doive » 15 Nov 2005, 12:19

Ok, just took lots of pics of mine and measured the panel as well. Between the lights is approx 28", overall length at outer edges of lights is 49.5", with total panel length of 50.5". I measured carefully, there shouldn't be too much of an error - so whose is right? Did Vauxhall change panels regularly as well then?

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Postby Herbie_Flowers » 15 Nov 2005, 12:31

so my panel will fit your car then Doive
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Postby Doive » 15 Nov 2005, 12:34

It would appear so... but then how did a saloon panel fit Neily's hatch?
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Postby Neilyman » 15 Nov 2005, 12:39

Did you measure from the edge of the lens, or have you allowed for the fact the lights `overlap` the holes? Pull your light out Dave & measure `hole to hole`...... :) :shock:
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Postby nutty but nice » 15 Nov 2005, 13:14

Are these genuine panels or pattern
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Postby Doive » 15 Nov 2005, 13:17

I did measure from the edge of the lens, I know they do overlap but.... I'm a busy man! I haven't got time to take lights out for fun! :P :lol:
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Postby Neilyman » 15 Nov 2005, 13:28

Doive wrote:I'm a busy man!


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