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Strut brace are they available?

Postby iety2004 » 18 Apr 2005, 20:27

Can u still buy these for the Kadett/Chevette?

Or will i have to make one
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Re: Strut brace are they available?

Postby GJUK » 19 Apr 2005, 14:00

iety2004 wrote:Can u still buy these for the Kadett/Chevette?

Or will i have to make one


thats a good question - does anyone make any that fit over that high peak strut top ? :D

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Postby hsr2.6 » 19 Apr 2005, 22:12

i know they make 1 for a manta
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Postby iety2004 » 20 Apr 2005, 02:30

i keep seeing them on german ebay, so i wondered where they still available over here?
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Postby Shoveitpusher » 23 Apr 2005, 15:26

why do you want a strut brace? all the suspension stresses go into the engine cross member. if the damper top moves it's not a big deal.
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Postby Neilyman » 23 Apr 2005, 15:32

Aye!, stut braces are for struts, as in McPheason struts, coil overs!! Not double wishbone jobbies :roll: :wink:
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Postby iety2004 » 05 May 2005, 19:46

I thought it was to stop the body from stretching and twisting when cornering hard and stiffen it up a bit?
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Postby Neilyman » 05 May 2005, 22:57

iety2004 wrote:I thought it was to stop the body from stretching and twisting when cornering hard and stiffen it up a bit?


It is & it does on `strut type` suspension, where the body is the top suspension mount. On Chevettes/Kadetts, you have a double wishbone setup, it doesn`t use the inner wing tops as a mounting point except for the shock absorber.
As shoveitpusher says, all the suspension stresses go into the engine cross member. if the damper top moves it's not a big deal.
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Postby iety2004 » 06 May 2005, 01:29

Ah i see, but the shock is mounted up there tho, still not enough to worry about it tho then? just thought i'd ask
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Postby Doive » 06 May 2005, 01:36

With a coilover setup, the strut tops flexing can allow the wheel camber angle to change appreciably when cornering, thus the fitting of a strut brace is a very good idea. On a car like the chevette where the wheels are firmly located by the double wishbones the wheel camber tends to remain fixed regardless of what the strut tops are doing. As already mentioned, the engine crossmember acts as a lower strut brace here.
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Postby iety2004 » 01 Jun 2005, 19:00

So would strengthing the crossmember increase ridgity?
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Postby hsr2.6 » 01 Jun 2005, 22:49

yes
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Postby Doive » 01 Jun 2005, 22:59

Right. To strengthen the crossmember is easy. There is a large space in the middle of it, so what you need to do is fill this with solid metal as the present design allows some flexing. I suggest sourcing a 2"x2" solid length of box section, cut it to length and weld it in whole to your crossmember. Then plate below this to make it completely solid. May I suggest fitting 900lb front springs at the same time.
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Postby mint » 02 Jun 2005, 01:34

I filled mine with molten magma from the local volcano.
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Postby Shoveitpusher » 02 Jun 2005, 07:48

Doive wrote:I suggest sourcing a 2"x2" solid length of box section, cut it to length and weld it in whole to your crossmember. Then plate below this to make it completely solid. May I suggest fitting 900lb front springs at the same time.


didn't realise you were into tank design, challenger one of yours?

oh and 900lbs springs are smooth tarmac spec for a rally car, racers probably go somewhere near 1200, so to lug you cross member around would need at least 1500lbs springs.

compress them with your corner shop spring compressors

scary or what

i have heard of stock cars with cement boots (as in trunk) but never volcanic granite. does it work?
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Postby Neilyman » 02 Jun 2005, 08:11

shoveitpusher wrote:compress them with your corner shop spring compressors


Nah!, put the spring across a door frame with a bottle jack, between the frame uprights, stand on the spring whilst pumping the jack. When it`s compressed enough, tie it up with a bit of washing line, fit spring & cut the line.....easy peasy. ;) :shock:
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Postby mint » 02 Jun 2005, 11:35

shoveitpusher wrote:i have heard of stock cars with cement boots (as in trunk) but never volcanic granite. does it work?


The cornering ability is much crater
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Postby Shellysowner » 02 Jun 2005, 11:36

Dear oh dear :lol:
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Postby Neilyman » 02 Jun 2005, 11:40

I take it it`s a bit `quiet`at your work then Mint? ;)
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Postby mint » 02 Jun 2005, 11:47

Yep, once i'd slaved away signing on at the job centre there wasn't much left to do
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Postby Neilyman » 02 Jun 2005, 11:51

Thought you worked in CAD design or sumting?
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Postby grim_b » 02 Jun 2005, 12:51

Ah, sounds like he is a "self employed line up manager" :(
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Postby mint » 02 Jun 2005, 13:27

Neilyman wrote:Thought you worked in CAD design or sumting?


Yeah, then I left. Wanted to start my own business, but that hasn't happened yet mainly due to me being lazy so i'm looking for another job and then i'll try and start a business in my free time!
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