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Postby CR500Dom » 24 Jun 2006, 13:21

space kadett wrote:looking good mate can't wait to set how it goes when done mine's great fun and plenty quick enough for a small car :D 8)


Thanks fella,
will get there before summers out hopefully :roll:

It`ll be at CARS anyway in one form or another :D
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Postby Shellysowner » 23 Jul 2006, 10:49

harryj wrote:nice job dom shes goin be sweet. just wondering where you are getting the quickrack kit. Thanks Harry
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Postby andy » 24 Jul 2006, 00:16

tj motorsport is where i got my quickrack and im pretty sure its where dom's got his from aswell. pm TJM on here think its £75 if i remember rightly
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Postby Doive » 18 Aug 2006, 09:42

shoveitpusher wrote:that is looking really good!

what are you going to do with her when finished?
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Postby CR500Dom » 18 Aug 2006, 20:57

Doive wrote:
shoveitpusher wrote:that is looking really good!

what are you going to do with her when finished?


Drive it :wink: :D

Been doing some autotesting in it which is great fun, so more of that, some sprints and hillclimbs hopefully along with some drifting too

The idea was to have a car I could use all week and play in at weekends :wink:

So far so good, just got to resist the urge to make the outside too nice now, or I wont want to play with it incase I spank it :shock:
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Postby UpNorth » 20 Aug 2006, 17:00

I see you're going the Piazza back axle route. Do you know what power & torque they're capable of handling?
Anyone have a 6R4 for sale? Unfortunately I've only got £1K spare but I could throw in a few eggs to sweeten the deal!
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Postby CR500Dom » 20 Aug 2006, 22:56

UpNorth wrote:I see you're going the Piazza back axle route. Do you know what power & torque they're capable of handling?


Nope, but My Kadet weighs 800kg which is a hell of a lot less than the donor Piazza :shock:

Having stripped the piazza I wouldnt be surprised if its getting on for twice the weight of the Kadett

I am also keeping the tyre sizes sensible, as replacing tyres is cheaper and easier than axles :wink: :D

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Postby UpNorth » 21 Aug 2006, 21:31

CR500Dom wrote: I am also keeping the tyre sizes sensible, as replacing tyres is cheaper and easier than axles :wink: :D

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To bloody true my friend!!!

I've followed your topic for a short while now as I'm about to start on a V8 Kadett and have decided that I don't want to arch it. As such I need a 'slimline' axle. Obviously a Manta A will fit (if you can find one) + I once had an HS with 205bhp, torque unknown, & it never gave any bother.

However as it appears the Piazza axle bolts straight-up that's probably going to be a suitable substitute. I'm just not sure what the torque will do to it........but there's only one way of finding out :lol: :lol: :lol:

Anyhow, can you get LSDs for the Piazza axle??
Anyone have a 6R4 for sale? Unfortunately I've only got £1K spare but I could throw in a few eggs to sweeten the deal!
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Postby CR500Dom » 22 Aug 2006, 00:31

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CR500Dom wrote: I am also keeping the tyre sizes sensible, as replacing tyres is cheaper and easier than axles :wink: :D

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To bloody true my friend!!!

I've followed your topic for a short while now as I'm about to start on a V8 Kadett and have decided that I don't want to arch it. As such I need a 'slimline' axle. Obviously a Manta A will fit (if you can find one) + I once had an HS with 205bhp, torque unknown, & it never gave any bother.

However as it appears the Piazza axle bolts straight-up that's probably going to be a suitable substitute. I'm just not sure what the torque will do to it........but there's only one way of finding out :lol: :lol: :lol:

Anyhow, can you get LSDs for the Piazza axle??


Careful, its a bit of a Myth that the axle bolts straight up

for starters the Piazza Axle is 4 linked without a torque tube so you need to put some upper locations in the shell for the top 2 links

Lower links pick up on the standard Chevette/Kadett points

I am doing a complete rose jointed 4 link location on mine with Full length adjustable mount body boxes for the top links and coilovers in the turrets, with the turrets tied into the cage.... not exactly bolt in, but will be properly located :roll:

Space Kadett used the Piazza Forged lower links and short top links with small boxes let into the rear seat base

Some Piazzas came with plate type LSD`s as standard :wink: :D which is what I have :twisted:

You also need minimum 14" wheels to clear the standard Piazza Disc/drum in hat handbrake arrangement, so I am using Cossie rear calipers with integral handbrake, smaller discs and new brackets welded to the axle case to suit

Axle should be going in soon and I will take pictures of the whole process :wink:

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Postby UpNorth » 22 Aug 2006, 13:30

Good man. You can be the unofficial Haynes manual. :D It's always a damn sight easier following someone elses lead - it's obvious you've done all your homework.

I'm still sourcing parts and then will commence in the next month (or two). Rather aptly it's the axle that I'm yet to locate so may very well go the same route as you.
Anyone have a 6R4 for sale? Unfortunately I've only got £1K spare but I could throw in a few eggs to sweeten the deal!
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Postby opel_charlie » 23 Aug 2006, 18:11

You've done really well to get it where it is in a short time well done, looking really good. When the engine going in? summers nearly out :cry:
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Postby CR500Dom » 24 Aug 2006, 18:28

Be another month or so yet I would think :roll:

Working away from home doesnt help :x

I need to get the 4 link and axle in next, followed by the Bag tank then Map the Engine on the dyno ready to fit 8)

Got the Bellhousing, clutch and gearbox, and also got a prop to suit the type 9 box as well

Hoping to use the Piazza rear section mated to the Ford front :wink:

Getting there, just not a lot to show for it at the moment......

So I have got a superb exhaust rear section for it to cheer myself up instead :twisted:

4` long including rear "Silencer" and weighs about 3kg :twisted: :twisted: just need a straight section between it and the S2000 manifold now :D

need to find someone that stocks 2.75" Dia Titanium tube to match though 8)
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Postby Shellysowner » 06 Dec 2006, 21:01

rodgerq wrote:nice conversion. got a piazza back axle here aswell, whats the gen on fitting? is that 4 link setup whats needed to do it? any pics of it mounted on the car?

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Postby CancerWagon » 07 Jan 2007, 03:30

If I had describe the car in one word: Shiney

Going to be quite the rocket once it's all done. :)
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Postby Gordo » 07 Jan 2007, 08:44

CancerWagon wrote:If I had describe the car in one word: Shiney

Going to be quite the rocket once it's all done. :)


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Postby Shoveitpusher » 07 Jan 2007, 09:30

Keep at it Dom, that's partly why i got mine built for me.

it may also help to know there are some interesting events about now. sprints are still on but Chelmsford mc have a very interesting gymkhana and there are some events called solos. mini sprints really. these place more emphisis on handling and acceleration than sprints, but don't have the high speeds.

which audi are the disks for?
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Postby kevin dog norman » 07 Jan 2007, 10:58

all looking good dom !!! :)

what else is there to do to the car ?

i know what it is like trying to build cars up (moaning wife, crying baby, work,extensions on the house 2 finish.......and then another car comes along that you just have to buy !!!! :?

where did you get the dash flocked ,was it the place with the bright green escort mark 1 ?

i used audi rear discs on my sprint car and i was also going to use the audi rear calipers (they come with hand brake) but i already had some sierra ones so i used them.

what diff are you running in your manta a axle ?

i am using a 4.1 in my axle, are you going to weld the wings on torque tube (i got this mod from gerry johnson ex dtv)

what gear box are you using ?

so much to do and not enough time ..................... :cry:

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Postby CR500Dom » 07 Jan 2007, 12:40

Thanks everyone,

The positive comments help to keep the enthusiasm up !!!

Peter, the disc part numbers are now in the Astra GTE Brakes thread :wink:

The chelmsford events sound like fun, does the club have a website or something ?

kevin dog norman wrote:all looking good dom !!! :)

what else is there to do to the car ?

where did you get the dash flocked ,was it the place with the bright green escort mark 1 ?

what diff are you running in your manta a axle ?

i am using a 4.1 in my axle, are you going to weld the wings on torque tube (i got this mod from gerry johnson ex dtv)

what gear box are you using ?

so much to do and not enough time ..................... :cry:

thanks
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Hi Kevin, still quite a bit to do, Finish welding, fit Cage, fit 4 link boxes (as I want them in before I paint the inside and fit it all up, fuel tank and pumps, Bias box to fit and plumb in, Exhaust compartment cutting into floor under tank for the Titanium exhaust :wink:
Wiring loom
Exhaust manifold to modify and downpipe to make
Power Steering column to mount

Sump to make and/or crossmember to modify :roll:

Oh and them I have to map it all as well..... so enough to keep me busy for a while yet :shock: :?

Gearbox is a Type 9 5 speed for now

Diff is currently standard but wont stay that way..... just working out the best way to do it now...... think its a 3.9
The gearing works out quite well..... just shy of 140mph at redline in 5th so it`ll be quite nice on the road :wink:

I need to strip the Plate LSD out of the Piazza axle and see if that looks like fitting, there is a rumour around that it does :wink:

What wings on the torque tube ?

Tell me more and have you got any pics ?

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Postby kevin dog norman » 07 Jan 2007, 13:56

hi dom,


the wings are made from 8mm steel and are welded to the side of the steel torque tube and then bolted with some 12mm cap head bolts to the axle (funny there is a place that looks like it was made to take the wings ???


i have also started doing away with the front torque tube rubber monts and replacing them with a large bearing that i got from gerry johnstone (with the orginal fitting instructions from dtv, i can remember fred henderson was going on about this in the old 70's/80's ccc MAG.

if you would like me jump under the car i can get some pictures for you ??

i do have a set of wings in one of my garages/sheds that i cut ready to fit to a 16v saloon i started to build.

i will soon be posting some pictures of my cars in the members car.........when i get a moment.


:D

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Postby CR500Dom » 07 Jan 2007, 14:46

kevin dog norman wrote:hi dom,


the wings are made from 8mm steel and are welded to the side of the steel torque tube and then bolted with some 12mm cap head bolts to the axle (funny there is a place that looks like it was made to take the wings ???


i have also started doing away with the front torque tube rubber monts and replacing them with a large bearing that i got from gerry johnstone (with the orginal fitting instructions from dtv, i can remember fred henderson was going on about this in the old 70's/80's ccc MAG.

if you would like me jump under the car i can get some pictures for you ??

i do have a set of wings in one of my garages/sheds that i cut ready to fit to a 16v saloon i started to build.

i will soon be posting some pictures of my cars in the members car.........when i get a moment.


:D

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Hi Kevin, pictures would be cool :wink:

Both of the wings and the Bearing arrangement :wink:

What was the reason for fitting the wings ?, I presume to stiffen the whole assembly up ?

And was it just on Tarmac cars they did this to or Gravel as well ??
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Postby Shellysowner » 07 Jan 2007, 21:39

rodgerq wrote:quality project mate :D

where did you get they engine mounts from? the kit you have in the boot i mean.

and whats the gen with fitting the piazza axle as i have one here to go on.

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Postby CR500Dom » 07 Jan 2007, 22:46

rodgerq wrote:quality project mate :D

where did you get they engine mounts from? the kit you have in the boot i mean.

and whats the gen with fitting the piazza axle as i have one here to go on.

rodgerq


Its a chassis mounting kit from a mate who makes them all for Demon Tweeks :wink:

What engine is it for ?

I havent fitted the Piazza axle, I fitted the Manta A axle for now instead as its easier to get up and running than the piazza

Do a search, but Piazza needs 4 link boxes welding in and 14 preferably 15" wheels to clear the brakes

Its not a Bolt in Swap hence the reason I havent done it yet :roll: got rather a lot to be getting on with at the moment, adding complication is not high up my list of priorities :shock:

I will fit the 4 link boxes in readiness, just so I dont have to repaint the inside of the shell again later

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Postby Mantadoc » 13 Aug 2007, 22:25

What did you use to strip the cr*p of the inside of the arches?

I tend to chisel most off then grinder, but the paint ends up melting and smearing, not goot for welding.

Just wondering if there is some nice method I have yet to discover :D
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Postby Gordo » 14 Aug 2007, 12:46

CR500Dom wrote:
rodgerq wrote:quality project mate :D

where did you get they engine mounts from? the kit you have in the boot i mean.

and whats the gen with fitting the piazza axle as i have one here to go on.

rodgerq


Its a chassis mounting kit from a mate who makes them all for Demon Tweeks :wink:

What engine is it for ?

I havent fitted the Piazza axle, I fitted the Manta A axle for now instead as its easier to get up and running than the piazza

Do a search, but Piazza needs 4 link boxes welding in and 14 preferably 15" wheels to clear the brakes

Its not a Bolt in Swap hence the reason I havent done it yet :roll: got rather a lot to be getting on with at the moment, adding complication is not high up my list of priorities :shock:

I will fit the 4 link boxes in readiness, just so I dont have to repaint the inside of the shell again later

HTH
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There are two basic variants of Piazza axles* - as you say, one is a four link, non-torque tube, LSD with vented brakes - found on the Isuzu Piazza Lotus Turbo' - this MUST use at least a 14" wheel - to clear the caliper.
However, the lower spec' piazzas had a torque tube axle, similar to the Chevette, that had un-vented disc brakes and normally a non-LSD but some were fitted with one standard or optioned. A 13" wheel may clear these brakes, depending on design. Quaife, I believe, sell a torque biasing diff' for this if it isn't already fitted with one. You could check with the Piazza forums for more info'.

*I've one of each.
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Postby CR500Dom » 14 Aug 2007, 15:25

Mantadoc wrote:What did you use to strip the cr*p of the inside of the arches?

I tend to chisel most off then grinder, but the paint ends up melting and smearing, not goot for welding.

Just wondering if there is some nice method I have yet to discover :D


Hot air gun and chisel, it takes most of the paint off at the right temperature as well :wink: leaving a quck buzz over with the grinder and flap wheel to key the surface.

Slightly slower than Grinder but a lot cheaper when you are pretty much doing the whole car, much less clean up afterwards as well

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