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Postby andy » 08 Apr 2006, 14:38

Looking very good dom making good progress there cant wait to see that thing on the road is going to be an utter beast when they are both done think we shud convoy to the halfway house turbosport meet and upset some of the boring ford people :D.
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Postby spyke » 08 Apr 2006, 16:10

:cry: erm what about me :cry:
i go up there as well. just coz mine aint modded as much :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Postby Neilyman » 08 Apr 2006, 16:39

It won`t upset me 8) , `twill be good when it`s done!, but the N/S panels & front valance look a bit `wiggley`, Has it been pranged at some time?
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Postby CR500Dom » 08 Apr 2006, 17:06

Neilyman wrote:It won`t upset me 8) , `twill be good when it`s done!, but the N/S panels & front valance look a bit `wiggley`, Has it been pranged at some time?


Front panel is wobbly, chassis is straight though :D

It needs an OSF Wing as well, which I happen to have sat in the living room :wink:

Going to buy a front panel from Germany eventually, its more important to get the running gear sorted first, and I quite like the semi Rat look is has at the moment :D

I should imagine with 200+ hp and a Slipper out back its going to get spanked off something soon enough anyway :twisted: which is all part of the fun :roll:

Cheers for the comments guys

Oh and Spyke and Andy, we`ll drag space kadett out too in his Turbo :D

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Postby andy » 08 Apr 2006, 19:26

now that sounds like a plan, also dom you mentioned something about carbon door cards me and my mate are about to start making some for corsas and a few other cars and im thinking of getting some done for the chevette so if you fancy a pair mate just let me know. Give me a few weeks to get the corsa ones sorted first then can hopefully make some up for the chevette.
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Postby CR500Dom » 08 Apr 2006, 22:14

andy wrote:now that sounds like a plan, also dom you mentioned something about carbon door cards me and my mate are about to start making some for corsas and a few other cars and im thinking of getting some done for the chevette so if you fancy a pair mate just let me know. Give me a few weeks to get the corsa ones sorted first then can hopefully make some up for the chevette.


Cool let me know a Price :wink:

Door cards, rear cards and rear Boot panels :D

2 thick sheets of glass is the trick :wink: :D
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Postby Herbie_Flowers » 09 Apr 2006, 22:11

any particular reason for a supercharged 1600 as opposed to a normally aspirated 2L?
i used to work for the company that made your inlet manifold and thermostat housing :wink:
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Postby CR500Dom » 10 Apr 2006, 09:41

Herbie_Flowers wrote:any particular reason for a supercharged 1600 as opposed to a normally aspirated 2L?
i used to work for the company that made your inlet manifold and thermostat housing :wink:


They dont do a 2.0 se :wink:

Seriously it was the weight issue 82kg fully dressed for the SE, that coupled with the frankly rediculous prices for manta 1800 bits for the XE conversion :shock: kind of put me off the conventional route.

It was originally going to be 1400 with a charger....... Cheap Tax :wink:

But the 1400 I got originally turned out to be to far gone to recover.

By that time I had already ammassed a few parts to go the SE route so I just kept my eyes open......

This one is a 1600, with 22000 miles on the clock, I saw it running so knew it was OK, and cost me less than the cost of a Sump and gearbox to put an XE in :D let alone the XE itself and associated freshen up :oops:

With the Charger it will still be a lightweight engine with plenty of Grunt, and should be reliable as its basically standard with the breathing sorted out 220-250hp is going to be plenty in a Kadett :wink:

And there is plenty of scope for more if I need it with head work and cams :shock:

Who did you work for then Herbie :?
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Postby spyke » 10 Apr 2006, 10:52

andy wrote:now that sounds like a plan, also dom you mentioned something about carbon door cards me and my mate are about to start making some for corsas and a few other cars and im thinking of getting some done for the chevette so if you fancy a pair mate just let me know. Give me a few weeks to get the corsa ones sorted first then can hopefully make some up for the chevette.


do you reckon u'd be able to make up some door cards up for a four door saloon. if not, not to worry i'm still continplatin strippin the interior and having alloy door cards
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Postby andy » 10 Apr 2006, 19:53

i dout we could make the door cards for the 4 door as they are going to be alot less desierable but we could sell you some carbon sheet that you could cut to size urself! But havent quite got the carbon making started yet so give me a few weeks and ill see what i can do.
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Postby Herbie_Flowers » 11 Apr 2006, 00:16

CR500Dom wrote:They dont do a 2.0 se :wink:

i know and i never said they did :wink:
i was just curious why you never fitted the bigger engine as there are more tuning bits available for the 'E'
CR500Dom wrote:Who did you work for then Herbie :?

when i first started there it was called Dunlop Automotive Composites, DAC for short, which was a partnership between Dunlop and Ford to develop plastic engine parts ie. inlet manifolds, thermostat housings, elbows etc. to save weight. after the development Ford decided to sell their share to Siemens and not long after Dunlop decided to sell their share to Siemens too because it was really hard to make any money due to the way the company was set up. all the inlet manifolds are made out of thermoplastic with brass bushes/threaded inserts and the ancillary bits made out of thermoset which had to be baked for a good 10hrs to harden them up. the stuff we made when i was there was for the Zetec E family of engines, the Jag V8 manifold and the JEEP 4.0L manifold. nearly everything was made via the "lost core" method which was basically a lead/tin antimony which was then cast into shape and called the core, the core was then loaded into the tools/moulds, plastic was injection moulded around the core, then it was put on a track to go into the melt-out which consisted of an oil tank with oil heated to 220-230 degrees C to melt the lead/tin and leave the plastic "shell" and then washed. i'd left before the PUMA line had had it's final commision so i don't know which PUMA parts they made. i still have a couple of mates who work there if you need some bits. oh yea 1 other thing....the previous factory owners were Puduce who made nappies and we used to have loads of pikeys coming round the side and back entrances after cheap nappies long after Puduce had finished there :lol:
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Postby CR500Dom » 12 Apr 2006, 13:05

Herbie_Flowers wrote:
CR500Dom wrote:They dont do a 2.0 se :wink:

i know and i never said they did :wink:
i was just curious why you never fitted the bigger engine as there are more tuning bits available for the 'E'


The Zetec E is a totally different motor, lots of tuning bits available yes, but its not as good a base motor as the Alloy SE.

E is a Ford designed engine, basically a 16v head on a Cast iron CVH derived block (Like the YB Cossie was a Cosworth head on a Pinto Block)

The SE on the other hand is a Jewel like All alloy Yamaha designed engine that revs to 8000 rpm on standard bottom end :twisted: and will make 220hp normally aspirated on standard valve sizes :shock: :D

It also only weighs 82kg which feels a lot less than the standard 1200 Kadett motor, so it wont upset the near 50-50 weight distribution of the car

Its going to be supercharged with the charger and cooler on the inlet side which is also helpfully on the Near Side on the SE, Offside on E, further helping handling balance by offsetting the weight of the driver :wink:

Its becoming a more popular choice as a Kit car motor because of its light weight and fantastic base engine design...... Its the best engine ford have ever produced...... but then it would be being designed by Yamaha :wink: 8)

Proof will be in the driving, but I do this for a living so am pretty confident a 220-250hp Charged 1600 SE will be a lot better solution than a 2.0 zetec E running the same power output.... cheaper too :wink:

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Postby Herbie_Flowers » 13 Apr 2006, 00:32

CR500Dom wrote:E is a Ford designed engine, basically a 16v head on a Cast iron CVH derived block (Like the YB Cossie was a Cosworth head on a Pinto Block)

i read on Burtons' website that they'll fit a CVH head onto the Zetec block....god in heaven only knows why :roll:
CR500Dom wrote:Yamaha designed engine

the best Yamaha engine i have experienced was their old 5 valve Genesis back in the 80's
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Postby Shellysowner » 23 May 2006, 23:04

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CR500Dom wrote: Will upset the purists no doubt but its going to make a very quick, reliable daily driver that I can sprint/hillclimb or drift at the weekends too



It all sounds very promising! However, do you know that forced induction increases your declared engine capacity by 40% in the eyes of hillclimbing regulations? In the ASWMC championship anyway! I.e your 1600 would be considered to be a 2240cc engine. Although you would still probably upset some of the big escorts :wink:
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Postby Shellysowner » 29 May 2006, 20:48

opel_charlie wrote:Alright mate just wondering what box section thickness your ising for the seat rails as i intend to do the same to.

How did you go about leveling the rails up for the seats?

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Postby opel_charlie » 29 May 2006, 20:52

Ah you saw my error thanks for correcting that.
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Postby CR500Dom » 03 Jun 2006, 12:55

Shellysowner wrote:
opel_charlie wrote:Alright mate just wondering what box section thickness your ising for the seat rails as i intend to do the same to.

How did you go about leveling the rails up for the seats?

thanks


1" box 3mm thick..... as for position.... lots of measuring :oops:

It helps if you have a long straightedge to span the car, then you can measure off the cills to make sure they sit level :wink:

You will have to be carefull what seats you buy, as there is not a lot of room at the shoulder, especially if you are fitting a cage, a lot of seats are too wide, sparco Rev is a good choice as they are narrow shouldered

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Postby andy » 04 Jun 2006, 23:04

looks good matey how long until you get the engine in cant wait to see this thing move afterwards.
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Postby CR500Dom » 05 Jun 2006, 08:22

andy wrote:looks good matey how long until you get the engine in cant wait to see this thing move afterwards.


Not sure if it will be in for C.A.R.S Show ? if its not in and fitted by then I am hoping to have it with me instead.... all built up on a stand :wink:

I have scored some Engine dyno time at a very good rate so I will Map it all on the dyno first before fitting it :wink:

Got my Piazza axle home last week as well, so I now have to cut the standard back plates off, clean up and weld on the new Brackets for the Cossie rear calipers :wink:

Then make some body boxes for the 4 link Rods :roll:

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Postby Doive » 05 Jun 2006, 08:40

It's looking lovely mate, slightly jealous I have to say. Keep it up!
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Postby Shoveitpusher » 05 Jun 2006, 12:49

think the ones in mine were escort ones from Rixie
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Postby CR500Dom » 05 Jun 2006, 13:11

shoveitpusher wrote:think the ones in mine were escort ones from Rixie


What your Body boxes ? :wink:

I`ll have to have a word with him then.... be handy as the rest of the back end has come out of his workshop.... Turrets, 4 link bar bushes etc :wink: :lol:
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Postby spyke » 05 Jun 2006, 16:42

lookin good with the paint.
gives me a shout when ur new axle is on, and when ur old one is available.
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Postby opel_charlie » 08 Jun 2006, 20:31

CR500Dom wrote:
Shellysowner wrote:
opel_charlie wrote:Alright mate just wondering what box section thickness your ising for the seat rails as i intend to do the same to.

How did you go about leveling the rails up for the seats?

thanks


1" box 3mm thick..... as for position.... lots of measuring :oops:

It helps if you have a long straightedge to span the car, then you can measure off the cills to make sure they sit level :wink:

You will have to be carefull what seats you buy, as there is not a lot of room at the shoulder, especially if you are fitting a cage, a lot of seats are too wide, sparco Rev is a good choice as they are narrow shouldered

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Hello dom

my internet was broke for a while thats why i havent replyed.

I did have some 1" box but thought it looked abit thin for seat rails, if your using that and think its strong enough i'll get some more.
I've bought some capri recaros the other week should fit fine is all goes to plan. I'll figure something out thanks.
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Postby space kadett » 19 Jun 2006, 19:51

looking good mate can't wait to set how it goes when done mine's great fun and plenty quick enough for a small car :D 8)
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