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Postby Tortron » 21 Nov 2005, 10:39

3.9 EFI Rover V8 engine
how much room was left after shoe horning that in?

whats the width of those rear tyres? are they "tubbed" at all
This text comfirms the fact that directly above this is a line
"as you would expect on a car of this age..."
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Postby Petrolhead » 21 Nov 2005, 10:50

Chevette engine bay has quite a lot of room. I did not cut any of the bullhead, just made a bit of clearance with a large hammer. Transmission tunnel is also large and could house the LT77 with only a slight increase in height. Wheels are 8x13 with 215 tyres on them. Arches are not tubbed but the outside edges have been cut away under the Gp4 arches.

It all fits surpisingly well. The most difficult thing was the exhaust manifold on the driver's side that had to clear the steering column, starter motor, clutch cylinder and chassis rail.
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Postby Neilyman » 21 Nov 2005, 11:07

Herbie_Flowers wrote:very nice looking motor there mate. how long has it taken you to get it up to spec? i'm wanting to coilover my back end, i've got a Manta B axle, could you tell me how you did it? i've got some ideas on how i'd like to do it but hearing off someone who has done it will give me a starting point.
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Postby Petrolhead » 21 Nov 2005, 11:14

Thanks for the compliment. I started the car 12 moths ago and have spent the last two sorting out some teething problems.

The coilovers are made from a pair of Bilsteins which I welded a threaded tube over to give me the adjustble platform. I then fitted some home made turrets made from 2mm steel in the position used by the HS. These turrets have a flat top of 4mm steel to give the strength required and space for the top of the spring. I used the info in the SportPart manual to cut out the hole for the turret. I cut the original shock mounts off the Isuzu axle and replaced them with brackets for the coilovers. The whole lot works well with the coilovers being vertical in the same position as the vertical shocks on an HS.
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Postby Shellysowner » 21 Nov 2005, 12:03

Hi and welcome to the forum - what a nice motor you have! I particularly like the attention to detail: the red window surrounds, the decals, the tartan doorcars, the recessed headlamps etc. There's nothing quite like a big V8 in a small car - good stuff :D
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Postby Doive » 21 Nov 2005, 15:18

That is an absolutely stonking motor, looks wonderful (considers how a saloon would look with that lot....). For some reason I particularly noticed the steering wheel - off a Carlton I believe? Is it a straight fit onto the chevette column, or have you had to replace the column in the course of the engine swap?
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Postby Petrolhead » 21 Nov 2005, 16:49

Hi Doive, glad you like the car. I got the steering wheel from Ebay (like most of the car) where it was advertised as: VAUXHALL ASTRA/CAV\CALIBRE/CARLTON STEERING WHEEL. It is mounted on the standard Chevette column but I had to trim something like 5mm off the rear of the wheel boss to allow the splined end of the column to reach far enough into the splined section of the wheel, then it just bolted on. I also welded a couple of pips on the back face of the boss to engage with the indicator cancelling ring. It was a bit fiddly but worth it as the wheel is a good diameter to cope with the very heavy steering. I did start with a smaller diameter wheel but it required too much effort at parking speeds!!
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Postby Doive » 21 Nov 2005, 17:45

I have a nice Mountney 13" wheel, but no boss on which to fit it. Have given some consideration to a bigger/chunkier wheel, and that one you have seems just the ticket. Maybe I should cut out all the fiddly stuff and buy a Carlton as well.
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Postby Shellysowner » 21 Nov 2005, 18:04

Harry Flatters wrote:Nice old thing.

I assume the welding on the front shock towers is strengthening, not repairs?

There's a few on here will want to know how you got on mounting the rear coilovers, & what you used.

Mmmm, V8........
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Postby Petrolhead » 22 Nov 2005, 09:24

Here are some pictures showing how I made the rear turrets. Hope this helps. And yes the welding on the front strut tops is for strengthening but I was using the wrong gas hence the pigeon poo appearance!!

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Postby shuvit-tim » 22 Nov 2005, 14:22

what an awesome motor! hats of to you that is a truly wonderful creation! *contemplates trading neilys daughters affections again*. Thanks for the piccys of the turrets also, most helpful!
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Postby Doive » 22 Nov 2005, 17:51

Those turrets look great, I often thought they couldn't be that hard to make. My respect to you sir, for not butchering up another saloon.....
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Postby Shellysowner » 22 Nov 2005, 20:45

Yeah nice work with those turrets petrol head, looks to me like it was actually less of a job than cutting them out of a saloon (oh no, here we go again :P ). I've got a couple of other questions for you:

What sort of mods (if any) did you have to make to your inner front panel to get the recessed headlamps into a later car?

Also, how much did it cost you to get a custom prop made (if you don't mind me asking)?

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Postby Petrolhead » 23 Nov 2005, 09:34

Thanks again for your encouraging comments.

The recessed headlamps almost fit the later car you just need to cut a small amount of the bulkhead away to clear one corner and also for the beam adjusters then they just bolt straight in, even some of the mounting bolts match. I made a card template first of the back of the recessed light to make sure I cut the right bits of metal. You only need to cut the flat panel that the lights mount on, no other changes are needed.

I made the prop myself so the cost was effectively zero although I did go on a welding course before starting the project which was probably one of my better investments. The prop is the Isuzu Piazza turbo unit which naturally bolts directly to the Isuzu axle. I modified the centre bearing carrier to match the Chevette transmission tunnel. The flange on the gearbox end is wrong for the Rover LT77 gearbox so I cut it off right at the joint. I then cut the flange off an SD1 prop and turned the end clean. It just happens that the outside diameter of the SD1 flange is the same as the inside diameter of the Isuzu prop so the two just pushed together and I ran a weld around the joint. It all matches up great and the SD1 joint even has some ability to move forwards and backwards to take up movement of the rear axle during bump/rebound.
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Postby default_user » 13 Dec 2005, 11:46

I noticed in the interior pic that your gear lever is in approximately the same position as it was with the standard engine. On my LT77 SD1 box the gear lever is beside the handbrake as the remote housing is so long. Did your gearbox come from a different vehicle with a shorter remote? Or did you source a remote from somewhere else? I'd really like to know as I want to fit a shorter remote to my box to put the gear lever back where it belongs and restore the tunnel, which has been badly cut for the V8 conversion.
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Postby Petrolhead » 13 Dec 2005, 13:40

Yes the remote is much shorter, the gear lever is just 55mm from the mounting face of the gearbox. The gearbox is an LT77 but the remote has been modified by Magnum engineering. They cut the remote housing and remake the joint to the selector shaft. The mod costs £75 and works really well. I would recommend their work. The gear selection is very positive and is slightly shorter than the standard remote.
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Postby default_user » 13 Dec 2005, 19:33

Thanks very much for the info, much appreciated. Did you have any trouble sourcing the bushes for it? I'll need new ones when I remove the remote for modification.
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Postby Petrolhead » 14 Dec 2005, 14:50

My bushes were knackered so I decided to solid mount the lever assembly. It means the gear change is more positive but of course you get more vibration to the gear lever.
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Postby Cooltony » 09 Jan 2006, 16:43

congradulations on getting into retro cars Petrolhead

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Postby Petrolhead » 13 Jan 2006, 09:18

Cheers! The photo shoot was a bit of a laugh and the Retro guys were a very enthusiastic bunch. The writer for the day normally works on a Ford magazine so initially his interest was focused on the Escort. When he looked over my car and drove it for a couple of laps round Bruntingthorpe he soon changed his mind. I always find people have such a lot of interest in Chevettes and they frequently say - I used to own one of those - haven't seen one for ages.

Long may Chevettes continue......
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Postby Herbie_Flowers » 13 Jan 2006, 17:08

Petrolhead wrote:Cheers! The photo shoot was a bit of a laugh and the Retro guys were a very enthusiastic bunch. The writer for the day normally works on a Ford magazine so initially his interest was focused on the Escort.

i noticed that in the said magazine because he put the Escrote before the Chevette on the write up. not being pedantic but C does come before E in the english alphabet.
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Postby jifop » 13 Jan 2006, 18:15

could some one scan it aand mail it to me? yes i'm to cheap to buy it. retro cars magh really annoyed me
Before you say anything..... no i cant spell or type!

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Postby Herbie_Flowers » 13 Jan 2006, 21:40

are you unable to go to Smiths to read it like us other tight fisted gits?
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Postby jifop » 13 Jan 2006, 21:43

Herbie_Flowers wrote:are you unable to go to Smiths to read it like us other tight fisted gits?


lol i might just do that
Before you say anything..... no i cant spell or type!

The post above is my own personal opinion, it is not meant to upset or cause offence, if it does bugger off.

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Postby shoveitnz » 11 Apr 2006, 11:49

just bought said mag today in NZ..its a bit late and very expensive but when theres a chevette on front cover....
NZ desperately needs more immigration and fresh blood. Our eyes are getting far too close together!

http://retrorides.proboards86.com/index ... 155&page=1

http://www.vauxhallviva.com/vivaforum/v ... hp?t=10258
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