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Postby Herbie_Flowers » 01 Apr 2005, 22:53

hi guys, after finding this place about a week ago and reading some of the posts i decided to go out and rescue a chevette again. i say again because i last owned a yellow hatchback some 9 years ago but only had it for a year before it went to the scrap heap. here is my new one i bought http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2192&item=4538401732&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
but i do have a couple of questions after driving it back home due to a poor memory and owning several different cars inbetween:
1 - has the indicator stalk always been on the right?
2 - has the battery always been located in front of the bulkhead because i fitted a heavy duty one to my yellow one and was sure it was not there?
3 - should the steering "stiffen" when applying more lock, im so used to power steering now.
all in all she's a great little car and i was grinning all the way home along the back roads at the way she handled and could feel every bump unlike my tank of a car, an omega, which really spoils you ride and power wise but in a nice way.
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Postby Shellysowner » 01 Apr 2005, 22:56

1/ Yes.
2/ Which bit do you mean exactly by bulkhead? It should be under the bonnet (obviously) in the rear left hand corner at the top, behind the drivers side dashboard.
3/ How do you mean 'stiffen' exactly? Probably.
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Postby Doive » 01 Apr 2005, 22:58

Welcome to the forum mate! Looks like a really tidy little car you have there. What's the plans for her - standard or rally car like the seller suggests?

As for the questions, sensible ones having been spoiled by an Omega in the interim!

1) The stalk has always been on the right for chevettes as far as I know. The kadett of the same vintage did have the indicators and wipers combined on a single stalk on the drivers left.

2) The battery again has always been against the bulkhead in front of the driver, but the Kadett had it located at the very front on the passengers side.

3) The steering will definitely feel tighter during a turn than the Omega, my Astra has power steering and it always feels as if someone has removed the sttering column when driving. The chevette puts the feel and the fun back into it by making you 'drive' the car properly. The steering will tend to go from light and fluffy at the straight ahead and weigh up when you enter a turn, getting progressively heavier the more you turn into a bend. The astra, like the Omega I presume, will artificially weigh up the steering but never really give the same experience.
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Postby Shellysowner » 01 Apr 2005, 23:01

3/ Sorry, never had a car with power steering!... or under 14 years old.
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Postby Doive » 01 Apr 2005, 23:01

I didn't have a car before I was 14 either :P
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Postby Shellysowner » 01 Apr 2005, 23:02

Like I said - cheeky admins :P
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Postby Herbie_Flowers » 01 Apr 2005, 23:04

Shellysowner wrote:1/ Yes.
2/ Which bit do you mean exactly by bulkhead? It should be under the bonnet (obviously) in the rear left hand corner at the top, behind the drivers side dashboard.
3/ How do you mean 'stiffen' exactly? Probably.

the bulkhead is the panel between the driver and engine compartment is it not? but where you have described it is where it is. i meant by stiffen as get harder to turn the more lock applied but funnily enough it got more stiffer turning right than left. it may just be that because it has stood for some time it needs a a good service and some liberal use of the grease in some areas.
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Postby Shellysowner » 01 Apr 2005, 23:10

the bulkhead is the panel between the driver and engine compartment is it not?...
it got more stiffer turning right than left. it may just be that because it has stood for some time it needs a a good service and some liberal use of the grease in some areas.


Well I don't really know, I don't use the term 'bulkhead' that much 'firewall' is what I always say... not that it really matters. Either way the battery is definitely meant to be there. If it's uneven could be tyres, uneven toe-in (tracking), steering rack lubrication... non-straight discs(!) lots of things...
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Postby Doive » 01 Apr 2005, 23:17

Yes the bulkhead is the panel between the passenger compartment and the engine bay, and the battery does live on top of it on a collander - well it does on mine anyway.

As for the steering the first thing I would say is check your tyre pressures! It really is amazing the difference in feel a few psi can have. Set the fronts to 21psi and the rears to 24psi according to the Haynes and the car should drive sweet. When I first got mine I assumed the tyres had gone a bit flat when I hooked it up to the air line, so I set all four to 32psi. Bone jarring ride from then on! Recently mine had been standing for a while having a bit of work done, and the passengers side wheel dropped to 18psi - I thought some part of the suspension had fallen off. She would tramline and steer to the left at every opportunity, I planned to pull the whole axle apart to find the fault. Quick squirt of air and all was well.

If the tyre pressures are spot on and the steering still feels heavy, have a look for dragging brakes and the like. Mine do drag occasionally because they are adjusted right up and the car tends to pull a little and makes the steering a bit heavier. If all else fails, as Ralph says grease the whole lot up!
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Postby Herbie_Flowers » 01 Apr 2005, 23:19

Doive wrote:Welcome to the forum mate! Looks like a really tidy little car you have there. What's the plans for her - standard or rally car like the seller suggests?

thanks. tbh ive always had a dream of fitting a rover v8 into a chevette but maybe not this one. the body is very very solid on the outside and over the weekend i shall jack her up and give the underneath a good going over and also pull back the carpet to check for rust. it just seems a shame to "butcher" what is a very good shell just for the sake of a dream and im now more inclined to restore it back to its former glory and let the missus use it. my immediate plans though are to get rid of the little bubbles of rust that are appearing in some areas, full engine service, overhaul the brakes, renew the exhaust and get it road legal so i can use it.
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Postby Doive » 01 Apr 2005, 23:23

Wahey! A man after my own heart. I hate to see all the adverts that say 'Good tidy chevette, make a perfect rally car'. Soon we will have nothing but chevette rally cars. Glad to hear of one more being returned to what it should be used for. How bad are the brakes? Does it need new discs and pads, or is it a full new line job? Not difficult on a chevette to be fair.
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Postby Shellysowner » 01 Apr 2005, 23:26

That's another thing that's wrong with micras, stupidly long stupidly shaped brake lines! I think we have a new advocate of the what I like to call 'the Doive end of the spectrum'. Actually no, I just made that up but it's a nice little phrase and I think I'll use it from now on.
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Postby Herbie_Flowers » 01 Apr 2005, 23:33

to be fair to the chevette i did jump straight out of the omega and drove it home but a light skim of the discs and drums at work and some new pads and shoes will do the trick im sure. were there 2 different types of brake manufacturers who made brakes for the chevette or was there only 1 at my models birth??
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Postby Doive » 01 Apr 2005, 23:34

Shellysowner wrote:'the Doive end of the spectrum'

My reputation precedes me. I am honoured to have an entire end of the spectrum all to myself, the end where good chevettes come to be saved and restored to their proud glory. Or they can go to the other end, have their low mileage hearts ripped out and be stuffed full of other engines, and have random bits of Volvo attached to their axles. I stay away from that end. Bad end.

I am who I am! The same thing is happening with mk1 and mk2 escorts, you try getting a tidy two door escort shell and I guarantee it will be fun. Any I have seen on ebay have said 'perfect rally project' or some other such nonsense. Ford made an escort 1300 sport I believe with the type 49 shell, and these are now by far the rarest of all the escorts and that includes all the RS cars. Most of the sports have been used to make RS replicas, and now collectors are waking up and realising they have all disappeared. Maybe someone will realise the same thing is slowly happening to chevettes before they have all disappeared off to be HS replicas and rally cars.
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Postby Shellysowner » 01 Apr 2005, 23:35

Well there were both Girling and Lockheed brakes but I think that in 1984 there were only Girling...although I'm sure Doive will correct me if I'm wrong.
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Postby Doive » 02 Apr 2005, 18:29

There were Girling and Delco Moraine systems, but by the time yours was made it is very likely the car was fitted with the Girling system. Good news because I believe parts for the Delco setup are more difficult to come across. Everything for the Girling system is still available apart from master cylinders and servos, although there is bloke on ebay selling off NOS master cylinders for about 15 quid - every one appears to be the 'last one' strangely. Watch for sticky calipers and leaking rear wheel cylinders. Oh and of course crumbly brake lines. Mine needed a full set.
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Postby Shellysowner » 02 Apr 2005, 19:19

Told you :wink:
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Postby Doive » 03 Apr 2005, 00:05

Well he did ask, and I happen to have an answer. Nature abhors a vacuum.
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Postby Shellysowner » 03 Apr 2005, 00:39

So not lockheed then?
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Postby Doive » 03 Apr 2005, 04:17

No. Not Lockheed. Delco Moraine. :lol:
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Postby hsr2.6 » 03 Apr 2005, 09:16

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:17 am Post subject:

could'nt sleep :lol:
rally drivers do it sideways.............well the quick ones do....................
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Postby Doive » 03 Apr 2005, 17:06

Insomnia is a horrible affliction. Honestly, thousands of things were running through my mind about what I could do - read a book, build a few webpages. In the end I just came on here and pissed about for a while. Eventually got to sleep around 6.30. Zzzzzz.
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Postby hsr2.6 » 03 Apr 2005, 19:48

if you want to build web pages then you can build mine coz i failed miserably

www.chevetterallycar.co.uk :cry:
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Postby Doive » 04 Apr 2005, 01:42

Well I'm currently trying to replicate my website by writing it in raw HTML code to get away from the geocities plug and play setup. Its a good provider but it has adverts and I don't learn anything from doing it. So far I have a single home page which looks utter crap. If this is how it will turn out I may just stay with the geocities version!
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Postby hsr2.6 » 04 Apr 2005, 22:55

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